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on spending cuts in order to raise the debt ceiling and key senate republican says mr. obama doesn't get it. >> you have a kid that keeps a credit card loaded and a person that would tear up the credit card but you look at the credit. republicans are willing to pay for past bill but this is about the future bill. the president misses the point here. >> reporter: today, house democratic whip steny hoyer said new revenue must accompany spending cuts. for day, the final passage is expected in the house in the next hour or so. bret? >> bret: mike, we will follow that on fox. thank you. ominous note now from one of the world's top credit agencies. fitch rating says the u.s. could lose the top credit rating if there is a delay in raising the debt limit. we'll find out with the senior political analyst brit hume thinks about this. good evening. >> good evening. the warning from the fitch rating agency today is certainly will become talking point for president and democrats who claim the republicans are using the debt ceiling recklessly as leverage for spending cuts. worry over the debt ceiling is
this president the right to do so not evil. republicans holding the debt ceiling hostage wrong. democrats doing the same thing, not wrong. not close. you can't say republicans aren't reading the will of the people in election when the people kept them in charge of the house in the same election. election have consequences, of course. perhaps hiking taxes on the rich is up with of them. but that does not mean we don't do a lick about our debt. not getting a handle on spending wasn't one of them. hearing only one side don't make you a journalist but doing so to ignore the other side makes you charyl top. charlatan. go after the goose, go after the gander. what is a gander? do you know? be fair, balanceed. both sides. have at it. >> dana: hello, i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, andrea tantaros. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: earlier today, president obama held the final press conference of his first term in the east room of the white house. the main attraction, our old friend the debt ceiling. they could default on the debt, unles
's debt ceiling and the effort to stop mass murderers in america. >> my point is to focus on what makes sense, what works. >> one month after the shooting at newtown it is time to come up with action. >> we to have answers. >> he will announce his specific plan within days. the possible gun proposals and could they actually become law? plus the lance armstrong interview. he's denied he doped for years. >> sick and tired of these allegations. they are absolutely untrue. >> the support gave him the boot. >> lance armstrong has no place in cycling. >> now and for the first time lance armstrong says he's opening up about what really happened. >>> and hundreds of people hunting giant snakes. >> the species of the day is ber mes python. >> i have a machete and side arm. >> man verses python in the florida everglades. >> breaking news with lance armstrong. first president obama still supports an assault weapons ban. he admits it may not make it through congress. the president head a news conference and said the ban is one idea he is considering after a list of recommendations from joe biden. i
to the wood shed over the debt ceiling today the white house press car taking on the president and president obama getting, well, rather testy. >> are you considering a plan b and if not, why not? >> chuck, what i'm saying to you is that there's no simpler solution, no ready, credible solution other than congress either give me the authority to raise the debt ceiling or exercise the responsibility that they have kept for themselves and raise the debt ceiling. >> what chuck and i and many people are curious, the new adamant desire for you not to negotiate and seems to conflict with the modern era of presidents and the debt ceiling and your own history of the debt ceiling. >> i think if you look at the history getting votes for the debt ceiling is always difficult. i don't think anybody would consider my position unreasonable here. >> you say you're not going to negotiate on the debt ceiling this year, why should house republicans take that seriously and think if we get to the one minute to midnight scenario that you're not going to back down. >> jewel anna, this is straight forward, either co
in exchange. >> that's a warning shot from president obama on the debt ceiling deadline, making it clear he's not going to negotiate with the gop insisting on using it, but the president facing a gop unwilling to negotiate with him. a in lawmakers is newly elected congressman ted yoho, a tea party backed conservative. great to have you here. we appreciate your time. congratulations, as you were just recently sworn in. you have made a real name for yourself so far by saying that you really want to make john boehner accountable for what he's doing there on the hill. our first team is reporting that the chief goal of obama's press conference was to -- for raising or not raising the debt ceiling. then this morning former house speaker newt gingrich weighed in saying the gop congress is coming out a loser. >> it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we are in
it must raise the debt ceiling and that the fed is going to keep buying bonds for now. on this one-month anniversary of the heinous, awful newtown shootings, the sheriff comes out in favor of banning assault weapons. "the kudlow report" begins right now. >>> first up tonight, president obama slams the republicans. he says no gimmick, no magic coins. just the plain old standoff on the debt ceiling. who is gonna blink first in this? john harwood joins us from washington with the details. good evening. >> good evening. the president used the last news conference of first term to draw an ever-brighter line with congressional republicans on the debt ceiling. they say they want dollar for dollar spending cuts to be matched with an increase in the debt ceiling. the president said i'll negotiate with you, but not over the debt ceiling. he simply is not going to allieu republicans to take the full faith and credit of the united states and the health of the u.s. economy as hostages. >> they will not collect our ransom in exchange for crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of
the debt ceiling or exercise the responsibility that they have kept for themselves and raise the debt ceiling. because this is about paying your bills. everybody here understands this. i mean, this is not a complicated concept. you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want, and then leave without paying the check. and if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way the american people do. you don't -- now, if congress wants to have a debate about maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner next time, maybe we should go to a more modest restaurant, that's fine. that's the debate that we should have. but you don't say, in order for me to control my appetites, i'm going to not pay the people who already provided me services. people who already lent me the money. that's not showing any discipline. all that's doing is not meeting your obligations. you can't do that. and that's not a credible way to run this government. we've got to stop lurching from crisis to crisis to crisis when there's this clear path ahead of us, that simply requires some
in the final news conference of the first term, the president took questions on the debt ceiling and the gun debate. first, on the rising debt ceiling, the president took direct aim at republicans accusing them of using the nation's credit rating as a, quote, bargaining chip. >> the republicans in congress had two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect our ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> and the debate over guns, one month after 26 children and adults were killed in newtown, and with the nra saying assault weapon ban would not pass congress, the president urged house members to, quote, examine their own conscience. >> the belief that we have to have stronger background checks, that we can do a much better job in terms of keeping these magazine clips with high capacity out of the hands of folks who shouldn't have them, an assault weapons ban that's mea
to increase the debt ceiling in order to pay its bills. he singled out republican law americas warning them he will not negotiate on the matter adding brinkmanship would be absurd and irresponsible. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more, all it does is say that america will pay it's bills. we are not a dead beat nation. >> in a statement john fwhier says the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. republican senator mike lee of ue ah taw says the government needs put into place structural spending reform because simple spending cuts will no longer do the job. we are going to face another credit downgrade i fear because we will face it again without think being the way paushiwashi spends money. >> he is willing to work with republicans to reign in spending. he wants to conduct those talks separately from the gop to raise the debt ceiling. he hopes by doing so he can avert a first ever national default. >> kelly wright live in washington. thank you. >>> it is time to t
armstrong go to jail? the kudlow report begins right now. >> here is my quick take on his debt ceiling stand off. do not mess with the credit rating with the united states of america. however, you can race the debt ceiling and cut spending at the same time. on top of that, you kcan fix th $2 trillion situation. that is my take. charlie wrangle from new york and i begin with you. i don't understand why that can't be done. you can get that done. you are one of my buddies, but i object to you using the default. you have enough cash flow and the vast majority. i hate that argument. i know. but it is wrong to call it default. >> why not avoid default all together. because i believe it distorts the rest of the debate the good congressman and i need to have. >> cutti inting spending, i don want to get hung up on default. it is all bad. welcome back, sir, why can't we have our cake and eat it too? why can't we compromise with spending cuts at the same time too? >> we can do it as long as we recognize it is apples and oranges. our obligation has nothing to do with our inability to govern our own spen
-month deal on the debt ceiling. some democrats are calling it a trap. i'll ask dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz what she thinks. it's do or die time for filibuster reform and democrats are about to drop the ball. >> nos,, sir, i will not yield. tonight, my message to senator harry reid. plus the american people are getting ripped off by a congress that just isn't working. congressman rick nolan was there is 30 years ago. he's back now and he can't believe the difference. he's wondering, are we getting paid for this? >>> is it really an admission of guilt if you don't show any remorse? >> it did not even feel wrong? >> no. it's scary. >> did you feel bad about it? >> no. even scarier. >> psychologist dr. jeffrey gardere on lance armstrong's bizarre performance last night. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. republicans surrendered today in one of their biggest fights. president obama warned republicans about taking the debt ceiling hostage. it looks like they heard the message. >> the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be
, january the 14th, and the president, as toure just satisfied, won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> what should we be doing to make sure that our children are safe? >> they're not going to be able to get an assault weapons ban through this congress. >> i see no need for bushmasters in the hands of an individual person who might be deranged. >> how about a clip? >> i think -- i don't think ultimately they're going to get that either. >> never before have we seen our babies slaughtered. on just guns alone will in the in the political reality we have today will not go anywhere. never before have we seen our babies slaughtered. >> what's wrong with universal background checks? >> we're wasting our time going in that direction when we should be talking about doing away with the gun-free zones. >> do you think you have enough support on capitol hill to keep an assault weapons ban from passing? >> i think right now we do. >> there is a step we can take that will save even one child from what happened in newtown, we should take that step. ♪ you really ought to know
on this issue. >> as you well know, sir, finding votes for the debt ceiling can sometimes be complicated, you yourself as a member of the senate voted against the debt ceiling increase, and in previous aspects of american history, president reagan in 1985, president george herbert walker bush, and president clinton, deals contingent upon raising the debt ceiling and you yourself, related to debt or budget related maneuvers. and what many people are curious about the new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate that seems to conflict with the entire hire in the modern era of the presidents and the debt ceiling and your own debt ceiling and doesn't it suggest we're going into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about this. >> no, major, i think if you look at the history. getting votes for the debt ceiling is difficult and votes in in town are difficult. i went through this last year. what is different we never saw a situation like we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position that we came within a few days of defaulting. >> lo
this out. i just want the squabbling to stop. this is worst than the fiscal squabbling and the debt ceiling. you know why? the stakes are higher. we're talking human lives. those little baby angels. let's try in their memory to figure something out if stead of hurling epithat's and talking about impeaching the president and imperial presidency and all this crap. tonight i hope we'll do that. we have the president of the naacp, we have nationally syndicated lars larson and congresswoman nan hayward. i'm not opposed to types this bill. cheap shots squabbling is wrong. this is a national tragedy. we need to do something about it. ben, may i begin with you. >> sure. >> what is your position on the president's view and do you believe that if he got what he wants, it would have stopped the awful heinous tragedy at sandy hook in newtown, connecticut which is right next door to where i live? >> we're very supportive of a whole lot that's in this bill. and it's clear that this would have made it harder to get these sorts of guns in the first place, harder to buy the high capacity clips, harder for a
on the debt ceiling. the president tells them if they ever agree on what to put in the ranson note, he wouldn't even read it. >> president obama used the final press conference of the first time. >> the last press conference in the first term. >> to draw the line on the debt compromises. >> raising the ceiling doesn't authorize more spending. >> the president clearly came out putting it on the republicans. >> republicans in congress have two choices here, they can act responsibly. >> this is such a recipe for disaster for the republican party. >> or they can act irresponsibly, they better choose quickly. >> frankly all republicans have to bargain with. >> yes, they are, yes, they are. >> they're holding us hostage. >> are we heading to a shutdown. >> this could be a financial disaster. not only for our country, but for the world. >> social security checks and veteran's benefits will be delayed. >> i don't think it is a question that is even on the table. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> t
's going to start off talking about the debt ceiling. he'll call for republicans to raise it without a fight. but several gop members have already said the debt ceiling is going to be where they draw a line in the sand. >>> check out the first page of politico this morning. double trouble. house gop, eyes default, shutdown. and it talks about the very real possibility that house republican members want to see the government shut down or default if they don't get the cuts they want. >>> let me bring in "times" deputy bureau chief ed o'keefe. good morning to both of you. this is all just breaking now, but the president has said and he said it consistently. he's not negotiating over the debt ceiling. michael, is this more of what we're going to hear from him today? is he going to lay the groundwork for the battle ahead? >> i think so. to some degree i think what's happening is a game of chicken unfortunately. i know the financial markets hate it. and it kind of turns your stomach a little bit. but obama has said we're absolutely not negotiating over the weekend a significant event when
warnings about the u.s. credit rating and the debate over the debt ceiling. why some think this could mean new hope for a minting a trillion dollar coin we could use to pay our bills. we thought that was settled. maybe not. and this high school principal is in hot water after trying to connect with students with a video that he says was meant to be a parody. we'll push play and you decide. and a reporter yesterday challenged the president about whether he's doing enough to reach out to republicans and trying to negotiate the big deal he says he's looking for. we'll show you his response and look at what that could mean for the gun debate, the debt ceiling and the rest. >> most people who know me know i'm a pretty friendly guy. and i like a good party. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. turn your world upside down with gillet
the power to ignore the debt ceiling. >> shannon: all right sm. democrats are pointing to a section that reads that the validity of the public debt of the united states should not be questioned. they say, based on that, they would support president obama, in raising the debt ceiling without congressional approval. joining me now to talk about that and many other thicks, former mississippi governor, republican, haley barbour. thank you for coming in. >> i hope the president doesn't try to do that. to try to take away from the congress the power that the constitution directly gives the congress. that is the power to -- to spend, the power to control the debt. i know that the treasury department has announced they are not going to do it. i hope they stick to that decision because this is -- we should never have a situation where one person-- the president -- can put our country deeper, deeper, deeper in debt. we are doing a bad job of that now. it would be really bad if it was not -- if the congress let their control go. >> shannon: you saw the white house press secretary says it is no
votes do provide a template for how, by the way, the debt ceiling might ultimately get raised. on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times, quote, we're saying calibrate your message, focus on long-term spending instead of long-term debt. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. when i asked walden about the debt ceiling yesterday, he was clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there's not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this leadership be willing to d
asserted the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. it was a response to this stern warning from the president on monday. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well being of the american people is not leveraged to be used. >> if the tenor of the president's last press conference of his first term is any indication about what he expects in his second term, prepare for a bond-style showdown as the government barrels towards its borrowing limit. that said, there might exist a solution that would allow congress to do what it does best, which is to say nothing at all, and still save the economy. this do nothing approach was floated by senate minority leader mitch mcconnell in 2011, and president obama gave it a hat tip yesterday. >> they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that last year
's expected to talk about the debt limit, the debt ceiling. that's in just about an hour and a half. when it happens, we'll bring it to you live. >>> the 20 million people of beijing, china, are enduring a fourth day of choking, hazardous air pollution. reports of respiratory problems and mask sales have sky rocketed. schoolchildren aren't able to play outdoors. many say it's worse than four years ago, while the officials in china claim the air quality has improved. >>> back here at home, water levels of the great lakes are expected to break the all time low sometime in the next few months. lake michigan and lake huron fell to record low levels in december. cargo ships are being forced to lighten their loads, and some harbors have already closed. >>> after three months of gas prices going down, they're now working their way back up. the lundberg survey saw the average price of a gallon of regular is $3.32. that's up more than 6 cents from three weeks earlier. >>> a couple of new american rides can now be called best in show. this morning at the north american international auto show, the
. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 >> $64 trillion and counting. the nation's debt ceiling. to cut to red, my next guest advocates more green when it comes to health care. the called the health reduction. she said there would be a method. explain. >> well, actually, the public option would decrease the deficit by about $104 billion over ten years. >> how too you know that? >> that's the congressional budget office estimate. of what it would do. this is not numbers i made up. because it would inn fact lower the -- provide an option -- this would be completely by choice -- for people who don't want to pick this public option, among the private sector choices within a health exchange, and rates for premiums are estimated to be about 5 to 7% lower, meaning those people in the exchange that needed a subsidy would take fewer tax dollars and it is also estimated that it would serve as an anchor, because there's competition, to bring down the cost of health care, even in the private sector as well. >> when is the government -- when is the government ever done that? with george bush's plan, you were critic
. >> well, good luck with tha >>> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills. and water not a dead beat nation. >> sounds simple, doesn't it? but like so many other crises and standoffs from the past two years, raising the nation's debt ceiling is a zero sum props. somebody wins only if somebody else loses. we're speaking of of course politically here, not financially. economically it's hard to find any winners if the treasury can't close the budget gap. runs about $100 million every month. my next guest worries about it a lot. signor partner and managing director of the boston consulting group and author and columnist. so this becomes tricky for people tound, but essentially the debt ceiling, is it the kind of tool that anybody should be used in order to force people to be more austere in the way they spend in the future? >> well, it's a way to do it, but it's a very dangerous way to do it because we start playing with everybody in our economy eye lives. so if we hit the debt ceiling and we don't have a bill that changes
illustrate why we are going to have the big fights over the next couple of months to raise the debt ceiling and two-thirds of the republican caucuses voted for this. they want to send a message that they really, really needed it, that they want to cut spending for every doll they put out there, even on disaster relief, which historically has not been required to have an offset. >> and definitely has ruffled feathers in the last congress. all of our viewers i'm sure will rememb how new jersey governor chris christie didn't hold back in showing how angry he was at congress, the house, and specifically speaker boehner when the vote was delayed last time. listen to him. this is on january 2nd. >> new jersey deserves better than the due police tea we saw displayed last night. america deserves better than just another example of a government that has forgotten who is the to serve and why. 66 days and counting. shame on you. shame on congress. >> when you listen to that and when you listen to the house floor and sound bites before , s what you're saying why speaker boehner did what he did in the v
bypassing the debt ceiling -- on congress's behalf. >> democrats are urging the president to use executive order to say congress, i don't node to you raise the debt ceiling, i am going to do it on my own. i want everybody to know,utive order -- high is not the first president and won't be the last to use executive order. frankslinrosis velt passed 37 executive orders and clinton and reagan did 350-plus. i am talking about policy issues of significant magnitude that need to have a full public vetting. the american people need tock engaged in the process. we need hearing on the matter ogun control, specifically. and we really need to talk about mental health and how we as a society are not embracing people with mental health issues. that's a bigger conversation, i know, neil. >> neil: thank you for indulging all of this breaking news and being on top of it. we told you about the mulvaney amendment, matching dollar for dollar, any aide they are getting in like-minded cuts from discretionary spending. that was defeated, as expected on the flor of the house. to missouri running senator roy blun
republicans, who want to tie the debt ceiling to cutting spending and obama says blow up the economy and risk the full faith and credit of the united states and to do so is irresponsible, the consequences of not paying our bill would be disastrous. the charges went on and on and on and made it sound like only an anarchist would oppose raising the debt ceiling. listen to this: . >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people, the threat that unless we get our way, unless you gut medicare or medicaid or otherwise slash things that the american people don't believe should be slashed, that we're going to threaten to wreck the entire economy. look, i don't think anybody would consider my position unreasonable here. democrats don't like voting for the debt ceiling when the republican's president, but you never saw the situation in which democrats suggested somehow that we would go ahead and default if we didn't get 100% of our way, that's just not how it's supposed to work. >> sean: hearing that i can't help, but be reminded of obama's record on the
for raising the debt ceiling. the house of representatives is back in session today, too, and republicans are just as adamant, insisting they won't raise the debt limit, unless the president goes along with spending cuts. let's go live to cnn white house correspondent brianna keilar. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without paying the check. and if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. you don't -- now, if congress want, to have a debate about maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner next time, maybe we should go to a more modest restaurant, that's fine. that's the debate that we should ha
to negotiate with republicans about raising the debt ceiling. >> if the republicans in congress have made a decision that they want to shut down the government in order to get their way, then they have a vote in the house of representatives to do that. >> the problem, that's what they say they're going to do. great to see you birthday. david, the president himself saying, i acknowledge it, a government shut-down is a possibility. cathy mcmorris rogers of washington state told politico, i think it's possible we would shut down the government. so here we are, we're getting to a problem. treasury secretary tim gietner said mid-february/march is as far as he can go. who blinks first? >> this is like one of the situations in the monkey cage at the zoo where the monkeys bang their chole their chests and look as powerful as possible. the president is escalating this situation. no 14th amendment option. do it my way or we plunge the public credit of the united states into bankruptcy. and the republicans are responding equivalently by saying to the president, we're not scared. we're not scared of
to negotiate, that implies, well, we may not get a deal of any kind on the debt ceiling. it's pushing them away and fitch says, watch out, here comes a downgrade. this is entirely possible with very serious consequences. >> sean: he could use the kids tomorrow as he announces executive orders as props. >> exploit them. >> sean: exploit them, i agree, that's the right term. interesting, is he going to say to them, by the way i'm the guy that's giving you 10 trillion dollars in debt? is he going to say i'm sorry i broke open your piggy bank, young children? i tend to doubt it. the guy won't d spending, stuart. >> no, he will not deal with spending, under any circumstances this president will not cut spending, he will not negotiate on that issue, he will not cut spending. his policy is exactly the same now as it has been for the last four years, which is tax the rich, do not cut spending, ignore the buildup in the debt. he now owns this economy. it is his, it's got his name written all over it. >> sean: he was blaming the republicans, they forced me he to sign these things. >> okay, but here is th
again. another recession if congress balks at raising the debt ceiling. that's right. those two words, we're all using them again. debt ceiling. this time around, the president is telling house republicans they can do it his way or own the blame. here he was. >> and republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills, or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. >> also, need to tell you the president did speak about his gun violence effort. he's had the package put together by the vice president is on his desk today. and he will talk about it a little later on this week. want to bring in two people here, ali velshi with me from new york, and gloria borger there in our nation's capital, to you both welcome. ali, it has been more than a year since that whole previous debt limit debacle. and i know you are saying, especially comparing this to what we just saw on new year's day with the fiscal cliff, this is going to be much,
to be a little breezy as well. meanwhile the problem break through on the debt ceiling. the house gop said they are considering raising the debt limit for three months, a vote is scheduled next week, more details on that in a bit. >>> today, of course is the last full day of president obama's first term and it's the national day of service. day for giving back. earlier today the president and first lady volunteered at a school in the washington, d.c. area, nbc's ron is standing by the national day of service day tent at the mall and you have a special guest there with you as well, good day to you, sir? >> reporter: hey there, craig. my special guest is being mobbed by the crowd behind me. it's the senior adviser to president obama. she will make her way here in a second. as she comes up, we will give her a big welcome. welcome, valerie. pleasure to see you. >> pleasure to be here. can you believe the crowd? it's amazing. >> reporter: the president and first lady created this to really hopefully make it a standing tradition for inaugurations going forward. >> not just inaugurations, my mess
to fitch warning it may downgrade credit, the american credit if we -- if the debt ceiling isn't raised. it's so important t? that we get this debt situation under control, and i think that once again, when you consider what we're doing to our future generations, you know, our children and our grandchildren, currently who have $53,000 debt upon them. we're eroding their possibilities and their opportunities in this great society. so i think we have to have up in washington d.c., the seriousness, to look at the true problem, which is a spending problem. look at mandatory spending programs and we have to stop the exorbitant amount of spending and we have to say, finally, we're going to stop this debt and we're going to get serious, and i think that fitch is very appropriate in saying that if they don't see a curtailing of the spending, that they're going to downgrade us. >> greta: we're going to keep our eye on this, because certainly all eyes are on this debt ceiling these days in washington. stay with us, so congressman, we have much more to talk to you after the break, but first, there is
nothing and there are also no meetings even planned regarding the debt ceiling and the inevitable issue that is are faced by those who need to make the decisions for us. >> yeah. we have got this triple deadline coming up. and nobody -- everybody says they don't want to do it at the last minute the way we did with the fiscal cliff but nobody seems to be talking about it yet. you don't have negotiations started. granted we are in a bit of a holding pattern with the inauguration coming up and maybe things start to happen after that but nobody seems to be jumping in proactively for a solution to these issues that are coming up and that's because they're tough decisions. they're hard. and nobody has something that is universally palatable ready to off offer. >> with that said, will we see a separation of spending cuts the republicans say they want to desperately and separate it from the debt ceiling? as the president said, you can't run out on a meal you have eaten. this is not new debt. this is bills we have acquired. the government and this country must be obligated to do the same. >> wel
, give the weight of what happens if we breech the debt ceiling? social security checks will be late, veterans benefits delayed, troops won't get paid, tax returns held up, interest rates could spike, markets could go hay wooir. it could dip into the recession. deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican party. but if i did, i would say stay away from shutting the government down. stay away from letting the debt ceiling not be raised because those are things that the american people will hate. they'll hate us defaulting onli blame you for it. they'll hate us shutting the government down. if you want to make a stand, make it in the sequester. the seques
in washington will be over the debt ceiling. can president obama end this craziness and bypass congress altogether? we'll talk about the out of the box solutions and whether they would work. >>> and, finally, this is the signature of the man who might be the next treasury secretary. we'll look back through history to see if there's any loopy president. speaking of secretaries of the treasury three former holders of the office and many other statesmen and women offering advice to the president on a new gps special tonight "memo to the president, road map for a second term." tonight at 8:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. >>> first, here's my take. chuck hagel's nomination as america's next secretary of defense has drawn fire from people who say he's outside of the main stream. in fact, he's a pretty straight forward, traditional republican on most issues with a reluctance to go to war, born of knowledge and experience. where hagel does appear out of the mainstream in washington's world of group think is on iran. which i would argue is a good thing because washington desperately
the republics on the issue of the debt ceiling and they have to not play around with the debt ceiling powell is a sophisticated player. i don't think he does anything without thinking it through quite well. that's why i said what i said i want to make sure we have your allegations on the record. i don't want to put words in your mouth. >> it's a supposition. >> bill: you say that you think that collin powell was asked by someone to go out and defend chuck hagel's nomination. and at the same time, raise the spector that some people are owe posing the president's policies because he is black. that that was to put in one interview in one presentation. that's what you think may have happened? it might have happened. implication of what he said really is quite inprogram inflay to say least. it's in line with what liberal commentators have said for some time. every time you criticize barack obama there will be someone out there in the blogosphere or television or radio saying well you just like the fact that a black man is in power. it's ridiculous. if you want to look at intolerance and collin po
is up against republicans, he trying to work on the debt ceiling. you have the whole issue of whether or not the debt ceiling is going to be raised, whether or not that is going to be held hostage to actually paying the bills the government has to pay. you also talk about immigration reform. where does this fit in in terms of the president's priorities, do you think? >> well, from where i sat today, obviously it seems to be a very high priority for the president of the united states. i'll let the white house and the administration answer how they're going to deal with congress. that's their task, not mine. but i'm confident that the president, the vice president and the entire administration is going to do everything they can to get the package they proposed today through congress. and, you know, when you heard the president say, i think it's essential, american citizens, the american people have to demand this. we have to act. when you have 1,000 people nearly killed in last 30 days at the hands of gun, when you have mass tragedies like happened in connecticut, aurora, colorado, oreg
previously stated he will not negotiate over raising the debt ceiling. >> some extreme weather making for a messy commute in several parts of the country this morning. in the northeast it's snow in the south a state of emergency declared in tennessee after an ice storm hit a large part of that of that state. >> in alabama the ice was half an inch thick causing dozens of accidents bringing down dres and power lines as well. let's go to maria molina whith what's going on today. >> we are looking at more ice accumulating across places like tennessee and kentucky and portions of mississippi and even places in the northeast dealing with some of the snow and also the freezing rain. we have freezing rain across the east. a quarter of an inch in the suburbs west of the city. we could have glaze on the roadways. snow over parts of new england. higher snowfall accumulations 3-5 inches of snow forecast. not a huge deal in terms of the snow. please be careful on the roads. lacking at freezing rain across area wesle and portions of kentucky. we have areas of plain rain across alabama and georgia.
the freshman republicans who told john boehner that he would not be voting for the debt ceiling proposal. that was from the last time the house republicans threatened the country with defaulting on our debt back in 2011. dennis ross, you probably should have calibrated your place in line a little better. throw a democrat in there ahead of you when you realize that's what you're going to get. get there in time for the repeal prohibition amendment next time. that's more fun. if you have found yourself at home constitutionally -- forgive me, constitutionally incapable of getting excited over having another fight about the debt ceiling this year, if this isn't exciting because it just feels like groundhog day to you, oh my god, i've got reckless brinksmanship fatigue, it is true that it's hard to get excited over something we have done before. it is 2013 now. remember when it happened it was a total disaster. even if you just ignore the political consequences, if you just look at the economic impact, it was a self-imposed economic disaster caused by washington refusing to do something that i
to duke it out over the debt ceiling, one said we should get rid of it all together? does ben bernanke have a point? >> the nra releases a new target practice ap for kids as young as 4. >> we have a packed show for you this morning. mike thompson joins us and greg walden is our guest. the congressman and newly crowned miss america, mallory hagen will be joining us. tuesday, january 15th and starting point begins right now. . >>> welcome to starting point. after years and years of lying to the world, lance armstrong is finally coming clean. there report he's confessed to oprah winfrey and he used drugs to win his titles. sources say he is in talks to have some of the millions he was paid by the postal service to sponsor the tour. cnn's ed is live in austin, texas. let's talk about what he told oprah and what the next steps are for lance armstrong. >> the big question will be to what extent did he confess and how much detail is he going to offer? also from the standpoint of how did he offer it and what was the body language there? lance armstrong is an athlete who is vehement in his deni
ceiling. geithner says he will replace the money, about $156 billion, once the debt limit is raised. it should not jeopardize monthly pension payments. >>> the world anti-doping agency says if lance armstrong wants to compete, he'll have to testify under oath. in a tell-all interview with oprah airing tonight, armstrong admits to doping. we're also hearing from the livestrong foundation which said in a statement, we expect lance to be completely truthful and forthcoming in his interview and with all of us in the cancer community. inspired by the people with cancer whom we serve, we feel confident and optimistic about the foundation's future and welcome an end to speculation. >>> just moments ago, look at this, crews rescued a woman who had been trapped for several hours in between buildings in portland, oregon. she apparently went out for a smoke break and somehow fell into a tight space between those buildings. firefighters actually had to cut through a wall of a parking garage to get her out. she was smiling, though when she was pulled out. >>> japan's top two airlines clipped the
. earlier, we said that as we do with the debt ceiling once again we're going as more of a debt popple. this higher interest rate proposal would be devastating for the economy. >> and how about ball mark? >> yes, they have pledged to hire 100,000 veterans that are returning from the war over the next five years. and a job is a job, let us just remember that even if is a transition jobs. soldiers are known for their commitment, sacrifice. wal- mart believes that the leadership to want to be seen as a blue-chip company. >> thank you, rob. and now, coca-cola we all know that obesity is a huge health problem in the u.s. and now - the people at coca-cola seem to be joining the fight against calories. but many wonder if this is really just an example of good marketing. felicia taylor has the story. pay attention to the man walking away from the camera. let's stop the video right here now the question is will the postal truck do the right panel also, coca-cola still seeing increases with their non-cola items. the company is already getting cal ripken to the front of their labels. felicia tayl
contact.com/try. >>> to washington now where yet another battle is brewing, this time it's over the debt ceiling and from the white house to capitol hill democrats and republicans are sparring over the best way to ensure the nation pays its bills and now they're taking the fight to you as both sides try to sell their point of view. president obama warning about what could happen if that debt limit is not raised. >> if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks, and veterans benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops or contracts with small business owners. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america a safe bet. >> the republican house speaker john boehner responding immediately to the president's remarks issuing a statement that read "the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved." joining us is amy kremer, c
ahead in the coming weeks as they deal with the debt ceiling. also, those automatic cuts to defense and domestic spending. plenty more battles ahead over spending, shep. >> shepard: mike emanuel on the hill. the bill has passed and the president will sign it into law. two weeks after congress approved a separate measure to borrow $10 billion to flood insurance claims from sandy and other disasters. throughout the areas sandy hit hardest we are hearing stories of people growing increasingly frustrated in delays by getting money they need. >> the whole outside of the house was ripped apart with waves. >> the waves washed out 16 years of family mementos from this water front house on new york's long island. >> what you see is exactly how we found it after the hurricane. >> jane long-term says she will -- letterman says she will have to tear down the home she loved. two months after the storm she is still waiting for the insurance payment to get her started. >> this is a shame. it's just a shame that, you know, this had to happen. but the thing to do is to fix it as fast as possible to
conservatives for their debt ceiling hostage tactics. today it was the editors of the national review who said it was a bad idea. americans for prosperity, which is backed by, yes, the koch brothers, also said it was a bad idea. even newt gingrich, the rotund king of so many boad ideas, has said enough. >> in the end it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to defall. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. >> joining us now from washington is david corn, d.c. bureau chief for "mother jones" magazine and jared bernstein is a senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities. good afternoon to both of you. jared, if president obama were the one holding the debt ceiling hostage, right as the housing, auto, and retail sectors seem to be rebounding, wouldn't the house republicans be calling the president's tactics those of a socialist who wanted to bring down the american economy? >> i think they would, and i appreciate your bringing the economy into it. the president did that yesterday. the more we talk about the debt ceiling after obsessing over the fi
it not comprehend it's not merely the nation's credit rating that's at risk from the debt ceiling debacle, but the full faith and credit of the republic itself? how long can we shrug off this grand canyon plunge that's coming? as we did again with another benign day, dow tipped 24 points, and nasdaq advanced .22%. this is behavior. is the market actually smarter than you and i think? i'm starting to believe the latter and tonight i'm going to tell you why. first, i don't necessarily want to invest in a country if it doesn't pay its bills. deadbeat country, but i don't mind if it can pay its bills but for a moment refuses to. constitution says it must honor its debts no matter what. i believe passionately that we will pay debts in a timely fashion. congress is supposed to hold the purse strings, but the american people are less stupid than washington thinks they are. they lived through another one of these scares. that time, we were frightened, frightened about what a ratings agency downgrade would mean to the country. do you remember where you were that weekend when we got the downgrade?
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